SOLO II Committee
Meeting Minutes 2/11/2014
Members in attendance Gretchen Everett, Laurie Hyman,
Aaron Pailthorp, Charly Spyksma, Kevin Dietz, Annie Gill, Chip C., Karen
Babb, Mike Leuty, Stephen Hui, Karen Babb, Ron & Alyson Bauer, Joel Ferguson,
Val Korry, Tim Stake, Brian Williams, James Rollo, Kit & Jessy Gauthier, Karl &
Amy Coleman, Tim Irwin, and Tasha Mikko.
Meeting Minutes One correction
was made to place the Rock Blocker discussion under open business, not GOO. A vote was taken and approved. Ron did not volunteer for
Northwest Region Board Report
They have more than they think in the Race registry, and are doing okay as a
region. Some progress
at the Ridge. It has
been sold and is being transferred to a new owner. Scott Miller has volunteered to
be the Asst. RE. Solo
needs to present a budget.
Treasurer's Report (Kristi)
Treasurer was on vacation, so no report presented.
Drift Report (Derek) No
NORPAC Report (Keith) Keith was not in attendance.
WWSCC Report (Karen) Ladies
practice day 2/15 and Event #1 2/16. Events
will be held at Emerald Downs. The
Ladies practice is being co-hosted by TS, SCCA, and ACE.
Timing Equipment We have the
new Farmtek equipment. Tim
says it works great, even with our old timer display. The reception coverage is great
because it doesn't have to be completely lined up. One issue was raised; there is
only one time displayed at once. This is different from the past equipment which
showed several of the previous times. We
need to decide what to do with the Race America equipment. The wiring is extremely worn
out and all three rolls would need to be replaced. It will cost
approximately $100 per role for a total of $300. We could also spend another
$800 to purchase replacement Farmtek equipment to use as backups. Tim said the Farmtek people
were really great to communicate with.
Equipment Update The generator
has been fixed. The
issue was the gas cap was not venting properly. They did a full maintenance,
changing oil, etc. and it is working great now. The bus is still leaking, and
is still being stored at Laurie and Eric's. Someone suggested that we get
it completely inspected to see what its long term life may be. Apparently, there are some
issues with the wood frame in the floor. It would cost around $300 for
the inspection. Several
in the group reminded us that we spent $10k to have the engine rebuilt and there
are maybe 500 miles on it. It
may not be the prettiest thing on the planet, but it does work and continues to
serve our needs. It may
leak, but this can be fixed. A
proposal was made that we at least get it inspected to find out if there is
anything major that needs to be addressed.
NEW RULE PROPOSAL
PRESENTED IN DECEMBER
An eighth and
final proposal was presented in the month of December. This proposal covers the new
2014 PAX index. Since
these were not published prior to our November meeting Dick is going to allow a
onetime exception to our current rules process. This new proposal was discussed
in January and will be voted on tonight.
Index the new
Street classes by multiplying the R-compound class indexes by the 0.975 street
tire modifier instead of using the 2014 Street Indexes.
the past two years, a 0.975 modifier has been used to index cars competing on
street tires at national level events. While Northwest Region did not
use this modifier, many other SCCA regions did at their local events, including
modifier has proven roughly accurate for lower power cars and somewhat
conservative (difficult) for higher power cars. This was corroborated by
independence testing by Sam Strano and other WDCR drivers.
The SCCA made
the street tire classes official in 2014, so Rick Ruth (the creator and
maintainer of PAX) assigned them individual indexes instead of relying on the
0.975 modifier. Unfortunately,
he deliberately chose to make the indexes extremely, unrealistically difficult.
If we use the
official 2014 PAX indexes for the Street classes, it will place all Street
participants at an unfair disadvantage in any PAX-ed class. For this reason, the
author proposes indexing the new Street classes by using the R-compound class
indexes multiplied by the 0.975 street tire modifier instead of using the 2014
Street indexes. For example, for an A Street car:
o We'd take the A Street-R index: 0.848
o Multiply it by 0.975: 0.848 x 0.975 = 0.827
o Then use the result (0.827) as
the index for A Street
1. Sam Strano
(a multi-time national champion who's generally perceived as being opposed to
street tire classes) and other Washington D.C. Region autocrossers conducted two
independent tests corroborating the 0.975 modifier.
In the second
test, Strano and two other autrocrossers (including Junior Johnson) did
back-to-back runs in an AS Chevrolet Corvette FRC with one-run Hoosier A6s and
BFG Rivals. The ratio
between Strano's best R-compound run and his best street tire3 run was 0.953;
the other drivers' ratios were from 0.937 and 0.939. These results suggest that
the 0.975 modifier is too difficult when applied to powerful RWD cars https://www.facebook.com/mykao/posts/10201931460668819.
2. At this year's SCCA #7 event in
Packwood, Stephen ran his G-Stock Celica on moderately worn Hoosier A6s in the
morning session and BFG Rivals in the afternoon session. Conditions were the same for
both sessions. The test
methodology favored the street tires, both because my Hoosiers were not new, and
also because I learned the course on the R-compounds before switching to the
His best time
on the Hoosiers was 61.326; his best run on the BFGs was 63.376. The ratio between his best
R-compound run and his best street tire run was 0.968.
3. Rick Ruth on SCCAForums.com,
posted November 22. There's no apparent way to link
to a specific post on SCCAForums, so you need to scroll down to find the post;
Ruth's user name is rtp.rick. -http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/aft/444884.
6. Gary Thomason (multi-time
national champion) on SCCAForums.com, posted November 28. There's no apparent way to link
to a specific post on SCCAForums, so you nee3d to scroll down to find the post;
Thomason's user name is BSPC5. - http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/aft/431529.
Discussion: There were definitely several
people that agree with this proposal, but it was brought up that along with
these index changes, there are also rule changes, and class designation changes.
One member felt very strongly that they should be harder until things have a
chance to be flushed out and more of a realistic baseline can be determined.
There is one additional region in the United States that is going against this
revision, and will be using their own index.
A vote was
taken and the motion carried. Vote
of 11 for and 5 against.
Dick would like
to remind the group that he is looking for volunteers to Chair events. Fast Mike said that he would
volunteer for one.