SOLO II Committee Meeting Minutes 1/11/11 (not approved)

 

Members In Attendance— Tasha & Doug Mikko, Bud Bohrer, Charles Aggenbach, Dieter Beldi, Keith Brown, Geoff Clark, Mike Duncan, Karl & Amy Coleman, Ron Bauer, Glenn Austin, Joel Ferguson, Kevin Dietz, Fast Mike, Val Korry, Aaron Pailthorp, Jerry Lamb, Shane and Kimm Jensen, Brett & Jason Spore, Abe Potter, Tim Irwin, Enrique Garcia,  Dick Willy, Brandon Chalk, Mike Miller.  Visitor: Jamie Harris.

 

Meeting Minutes- December minutes were approved as written with the exception of removing Karl from the attendance list twice. 

 

NWR Board Report (Glenn) - Lou Ann has never received a copy of the invoice we sent to the region for our NT/Pro Solo events, Kristi needs to send a copy to Lou Ann before we will receive reimbursement.  The Street Survival School is coming up quickly. 

 

WWSCC Report (Keith) - Still looking for a VP for the council. There are a few dates on the calendar for Slush events.  

 

NORPAC Report (Keith) - There will be three Divisional events for the 2011 season. The first event will be a SFR event over President’s Weekend.  The second event will be at Helena on June 11 and 12th. The third event will be the Packwood NT.  Not much discussed during conference call.  There is definitely not going to be ANY events in Wendover.  The third Western Pro will be in Colorado.  

 

Drift Report (Russell) -  Russell was not in attendance.  

 

Treasurer Report – No new business from last month. 

 

OLD BUSINESS

 

National Convention - Keith Brown will be attending for our region.

 

Port of Tacoma - Garret Bickerdike will be meeting with the Port next weekend.  

 

Coneheads Event- January 15th at Farestart. Online registration is now closed. $35 per person. The question was raised as to whether we will continue to purchase the tickets for our region championship sponsor - Fordahl Motorsports for the region banquet even though they have not paid for the 2011 season.  A motion was made that yes, we should pay for them since we have not officially sent them an invoice for this season.  The motion passes and we will be paying for both Greg and Jodi Fordahl to attend our banquet.  This discussion has brought to light that we need to develop a new position of a “sponsorship liaison” to help facilitate these issues in the future.  Another proposal was made that we also include the Tight n’ Tidy  Pro Solo series sponsor owner and his spouse for free entries to the banquet.  In the discussion it was brought up that a total of $70 would be a quarter of their sponsorship fees.  The motion was passed.

 

Bus Driver - This discussion was tabled until next month.

 

NEW BUSINESS

 

NWR Solo ARE -  Glenn Austin has volunteered to be our new Solo Director.  Big thanks go out to Glenn!! 

 

NWR Region Treasurer - We are currently looking for a treasurer. The person who just volunteer had to step down for personal reasons.  Shane Jensen has volunteered to run for this position. 

 

2011 Rule Proposals

 

1.  Time Only (TO) and Novice class competitors will be staged separately from “Championship Class” competitors, when gridded.

Reasons:  Ideally, Championships-class competitors should make their timed runs nose-to-tail, so to speak, to minimize the effects of weather and random event stoppages, and regularize tire performances.  Currently, we utilize no control whatsoever with respect to this ideal.  Furthermore, we allow Novice instructional runs, and open testing/demonstration runs in the midst of Regional Competition activity.

Separating Novice/TO cars from the “classed” cars would be a fairly straightforward process that would lessen the effects of chance in Championship competition outcomes, and underscore the priority of that competition at NWR events.

Additionally, there are two potential benefits related to novice drivers: 1) running as more of a group, there would be increased on-course safety, as the time differential between consecutive vehicles will be more consistent; and 2) separating them more fully from the bulk of class competitors will make it easier for “instructors” and novice drivers to share vehicle-rides.  

 

Jerry called for discussion and there was none. The motion failed unanimously.

 

2.  Every three (3) years, one Championship event course will be selected for re-use as one of the Series courses for the two (2) subsequent years. I.e., one course will “persist” for three seasons.

Reason:  In a typical season there are one or two courses that are particularly enjoyable and competitors would like to experience them again; and even be able to use them as a reference point for their driving performance and car development.  Although one of the special challenges of Solo is the relative uniqueness of each course, the inclusion each year of one repeated layout would provide a small sample of the advantage of road-racing and add a nice wrinkle to our NWR Championship series.

 

The motion failed with one vote in favor.

 

3.  Non-refundable, full-series event pre-payment will be available prior to the first full event each season.  A 10% discount will be offered to those who pre-pay for the full season.

 

Reason:  streamlines event administration, and provides a small benefit to competitors who commit to the Series.

The Chief of registration suggested that she could easily deal with the situation as long as there was a list, or a check on the Timing Card.  The person paying in advance would deal directly with the Solo treasurer, so she can provide a list to registration.  This means that the entrant must commit no later than the first event.  Someone will need to communicate with Kristi Brown, our treasurer, and this option must be published in advance to allow enough time for someone to respond in a timely manner. 

 

The motion passed.

 

4.  ALL timed runs at any given event would be considered “competition runs”.  All competition runs would be scored for the event and year-end season awards.

 

Current Rule:

 

Unfortunately the current rule approved for the 2010 season limiting competition runs to the first three runs only, was not found anywhere on the NWR-SCCA web site. Unable to pull exact wording since the supplemental rules were never posted for 2010.

My definition of the current rule - only the first 3 runs at each event are scored and then used to determine year end championship points.

 

Proposed Rule:

Add 22.1 to NWR Supplemental Rules:  

 

All timed runs at any given event will be considered “competition runs” and will be scored for the event and for the year end awards. 

 

Justification

 

Allowing ALL timed runs to be included in the results supports the idea that every person, and every run counts.  It creates a more welcoming environment for the SCCA Solo program and may actually help increase our participation levels rather than take away from them as we have seen in 2009.  

 

Many of the competitors we have on a local level may never compete on a National level, so to enforce a rule that disregards their involvement as “less important” than someone else because they compete on a higher level only creates a negative impression of our program. Rather than compete in the SCCA Solo program these novices or newer competitors may choose to participate in other local club events instead.

 

This motion passed.

 

Secondary Proposal:

 

If the group does not vote to approve this change to all classes across the board, then a secondary proposal of applying these changes to the PAX classes only would be presented as an alternative. 

 

It was discovered that the wording on the secondary proposal was not properly stated because as written only the PAX classes (OPax and NSPax) would score all runs.  This was not what the author originally intended. The proposed wording will be amended to the following:

ALL timed runs at any given even would be considered “competition runs” for all classes except OPax and NSPax (subject to rule proposal 4). OPax and NSPax classes will score no more than three runs for each event.  For all other classes all competition runs would be scored for the event and year-end season awards.

 

A suggestion was made that the secondary proposal be presented regardless of the outcome of rule proposal 6. A vote was held and passed deciding that since this alternative was presented at the official rules meeting back in December, then it could be separated from the author’s original proposal and left on the table for discussion and a final vote.  

 

Discussion ensued. Some felt that this is not a fair position and that once everyone is allowed to keep all runs for competition than it should not be taken away from any of the PAX classes. But, it was also brought up that if people in this region are looking for a platform to run a more “pure race” by following rules on the level of the National office, this was the perfect way to allow both options. It was also brought up that the author’s original intention was created as a failsafe to the first proposal and they may not have meant the rule to end up that way, but the group felt that didn’t matter.  It was also brought up that it was more than likely that the results could be changed to reflect all runs taken in the PAX classes regardless of whether they counted towards class competition or not. This seemed to appease many of the protestors. 

 

The secondary proposal passed with two opposing votes.

 

5. Including ST Classes in the NSPAX

 

Current rule

 

16. PAX CLASSES. Four PAX Index-based classes will be offered: Open Pax, Open Pax Ladies, Non-Stock Pax, and Non-Stock Pax Ladies. All cars are eligible to compete in Open Pax and Open Pax Ladies.  Non-Stock Pax and Non-Stock Pax Ladies are limited to cars in the Street Prepared, Prepared, Modified and Street Modified classes.  Class designation is an “X” following the normal class letters (e.g., ASX, CSPLX). The current National PAX/RTP Index values will be used to compute times for scoring. Street Touring cars run with the Stock classes. PAX-Indexed times are computed as follows: 

Time = (scratch time x PAX Index) + penalties

 

Proposed rule  (revisions are bolded)

 

16. PAX CLASSES. Four PAX Index-based classes will be offered: Open Pax, Open Pax Ladies, Non-Stock Pax, and Non-Stock Pax Ladies. All cars are eligible to compete in Open Pax and Open Pax Ladies.  Non-Stock Pax and Non-Stock Pax Ladies are limited to cars in the Street Touring, Street Prepared, Prepared, Modified and Street Modified classes (ALL NS classes).  Class designation is an “X” following the normal class letters (e.g., ASX, CSPLX).  The current National PAX/RTP Index values will be used to compute times for scoring. PAX-Indexed times are computed as follows: 

Time = (scratch time x PAX Index) + penalties

 

Evidence for change

 

1) The current rule regarding Street Touring was not updated with the inclusion of Open PAX; the Stock class in reference no longer exists. 

2) Open Pax has a large competitor base while Non-Stock Pax does not.  This opens up an opportunity for cross class competition of Street Touring cars with other modified cars, without increasing the Open Pax class size.

3) Street Touring cars already run in the NS half of the day along with Non-Stock Pax.  This keeps the entry levels for AM/PM in balance. This would have a limited affect on run/work group balancing as NS4 and NS5 would still be active classes.

 

This motion passed with one vote against.

 

6.  Eliminate the NS PAX class

 

Existing Rule

 

16.  PAX CLASSES. Four PAX Index-based classes will be offered: Open Pax, Open Pax Ladies, Non-Stock Pax, and Non-Stock Pax Ladies. All cars are eligible to compete in Open Pax and Open Pax Ladies.  Non-Stock Pax and Non-Stock Pax Ladies are limited to cars in the Street Prepared, Prepared, Modified and Street Modified classes.  Class designation is an “X” following the normal class letters (e.g., ASX, CSPLX). The current National PAX/RTP Index values will be used to compute times for scoring. Street Touring cars run with the Stock classes. PAX-Indexed times are computed as follows: 

Time = (scratch time x PAX Index) + penalties

 

Proposed Rule

 

16.  PAX CLASSES. Two PAX Index-based classes will be offered: Open Pax, Open Pax Ladies.  Class designation is an “X” following the normal class letters (e.g., ASX, CSPLX). The current National PAX/RTP Index values will be used to compute times for scoring.  PAX-Indexed times are computed as follows: 

Time = (scratch time x PAX Index) + penalties

 

The motion failed unanimously.

 

7.  Keep 14.2.F in effect locally – allowance for body kits (lips, bumpers, wings, etc.)

 

Original National rule:

Per section 14.2.F of the National Solo Rules

 

14.2.F Addition of spoilers, splitters, body kits, rear wings and nonfunctional scoops/vents is allowed. The intent of this allowance is to accommodate commonly available appearance kits, and replicas thereof, which have no significant aerodynamic function at Solo speeds. Body kits are limited to bumper covers (including modified OE bumper covers), valances, side skirts, and fender flares. Standard parts may not be removed except for the substitution of spoilers, rear wings, bumper covers and valances. Rear wings must attach only aft of the rear wheel centerline.

The allowances regarding wings and spoilers only allow swapping like for like if the original device was not an OE option as configured by the factory, i.e. a spoiler for a spoiler or a wing for a wing. If a vehicle is available without a wing or spoiler from the manufacturer then either can be installed. Surface area of all splitters, spoilers and rear wing (see 12.9) shall not exceed 5 square feet in sum total. Substitution of rear spoilers or wings must retain any original third brake light functionality unless otherwise equipped. No underbody panels may be added or substituted. The drilling of holes for the purpose of mounting these pieces is permitted.

 

Proposed Rule: 

Keep 14.2.F in effect for the NWR locally.  Rule would not apply to any Street Touring car participating in a PAX class.  Street Touring cars participating in a PAX class must follow the rules published for Street Touring at the National level. 

 

Rationale

 

14.2.F may be deleted nationally by the SCCA Board of Directors (BOD). With the deletion of 14.2.F it will put any competitor with a simple body modification (like a different year OEM or aftermarket lower bumper lip) out of any/all Street Touring classes. The National rule change goes way too far. The main issue/discussion has always been the wings sizes and never body kits, but the proposed BOD decision to delete 14.2.F takes away all body modifications.  

 

Making such a severe change to an entire class category, especially one that was originally created to entice a younger demographic to the SCCA Solo program is detrimental to the development of our region. It discourages novices and/or current competitors by limiting any type of customization to their car, and throws them into a class like Street Modified for a simple cosmetic enhancement, based on personal preference. People drawn to these types of vehicles don’t tend to leave the body stock, they like the added “personality” that many of these types of additions provide.  Shouldn’t we give them a legal and reasonable place to compete?

 

Many competitors currently participating in this category have already invested significant amounts of money in these types of aftermarket parts. A majority of these competitors will never run on a National level and rather than remove these parts from their vehicle, will simply make a choice to run in a different program locally. We have seen SCCA Solo program participation levels steadily decline over the past several seasons.  Why make a decision that will only continue to shrink our membership numbers?

 

Creating a rule of this nature locally could potentially create a performance disadvantage to competitors who follow the National rule change; however there are other opportunities for these National level drivers to compete, such as our PAX or NSPAX classes. 

 

This motion passed with a total vote of 11 for and 7 against.

 

An amendment was proposed that we accept the proposed rule, but add additional language that removes any Swiss cheese bumpers, and decrease the overall footage of the wing availability to a total of no more than 3 square feet for aftermarket wings. The amendment failed and the vote went back to the original rule proposed.  

 

8.   Keep 14.2.F in effect locally in Street Tire Ultra (STU) class– allowance for body kits (lips, bumpers, wings, etc.)

 

Original National rule:

Per section 14.2.F of the National Solo Rules

 

14.2.F Addition of spoilers, splitters, body kits, rear wings and nonfunctional scoops/vents is allowed. The intent of this allowance is to accommodate commonly available appearance kits, and replicas thereof, which have no significant aerodynamic function at Solo speeds. Body kits are limited to bumper covers (including modified OE bumper covers), valances, side skirts, and fender flares. Standard parts may not be removed except for the substitution of spoilers, rear wings, bumper covers and valances. Rear wings must attach only aft of the rear wheel centerline.

The allowances regarding wings and spoilers only allow swapping like for like if the original device was not an OE option as configured by the factory, i.e. a spoiler for a spoiler or a wing for a wing. If a vehicle is available without a wing or spoiler from the manufacturer then either can be installed. Surface area of all splitters, spoilers and rear wing (see 12.9) shall not exceed 5 square feet in sum total. Substitution of rear spoilers or wings must retain any original third brake light functionality unless otherwise equipped. No underbody panels may be added or substituted. The drilling of holes for the purpose of mounting these pieces is permitted.

 

Proposed Rule:

Keep 14.2.F in effect for the NWR local STU class only. Rule would not apply to any Street Touring cars participating in either the Open PAX or NSPax classes. Street Touring cars participating in either of these PAX classes must follow the rules published for Street Touring classes at the National level.  

 

Rationale

 

STU (Street Tire Ultra) already has allowances for brake and exhaust modifications above and beyond all other ST* classes. Keeping this rule continues along the line of modifications.

 

14.2.F may be deleted nationally by the SCCA Board of Directors (BOD). With the deletion of 14.2.F it will put any competitor with a simple body modification (like a different year OEM or aftermarket lower bumper lip) out of Street Touring Ultra class. The National rule change goes way too far. The main issue/discussion has always been the wings sizes and never body kits, but the proposed BOD decision to delete 14.2.F takes away all body modifications.  

 

Making such a severe change to an entire class category, especially one that was originally created to entice a younger demographic to the SCCA Solo program is detrimental to the development of our region. It discourages novices and/or current competitors by limiting any type of customization to their car, and throws them into a class like Street Modified for a simple cosmetic enhancement, based on personal preference. People drawn to these types of vehicles don’t tend to leave the body stock, they like the added “personality” that many of these types of additions provide.  Shouldn’t we give them a legal and reasonable place to compete?

 

Many competitors currently participating in this category have already invested significant amounts of money in these types of aftermarket parts. A majority of these competitors will never run on a National level and rather than remove these parts from their vehicle, will simply make a choice to run in a different program locally. We have seen SCCA Solo program participation levels steadily decline over the past several seasons.  Why make a decision that will only continue to shrink our membership numbers?

 

Creating a rule of this nature locally could potentially create a performance disadvantage to competitors who follow the National rule change; however there are other opportunities for these National level drivers to compete, such as our PAX or NSPAX classes.

 

This motion was not necessary since the above motion was approved.

 

9.  Eliminate NS Street Tire Classes

 

Existing rule

 

17.  STREET TIRE CLASSES. Four Street Tire classes will be provided: Stock, Stock Ladies, Non-Stock and Non-Stock Ladies.  Stock Street Tire is limited to Stock class cars, Non-Stock Street tire is limited to cars in the Street Prepared, Prepared, Modified and Street Modified classes. Class designation is a “T” following the normal class letters (e.g., AST, CSPLT). The class is for cars using non-autocross DOT-approved tires. Purpose-built autocross or road racing ('R'-compound) tires are not allowed. See SIIR section 17.3 for tire eligibility specifics. The current National PAX/RTP Index values will be used to compute times for scoring (See Rule 16 for formula.)  Street Touring classes are not eligible.

 

Proposed rule

 

17.  STREET TIRE CLASSES. Two Street Tire classes will be provided: one Open and one Ladies. Class designation is a “T” following the normal class letters (e.g., AST, CSPLT). The class is for cars using non-autocross DOT-approved tires. Purpose-built autocross or road racing ('R'-compound) tires are not allowed. See SIIR section 17.3 for tire eligibility specifics. The current National PAX/RTP Index values will be used to compute times for scoring (See Rule 16 for formula.)  Street Touring classes are not eligible.

 

Justification

The street tire split between Stock and non-stock did not seem to have the desired effect, and non stock street tire was underutilized.

 

This motion passed.

 

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